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    Posted: 06-Dec-2009 at 3:47pm

AS salamu allaiqum

kala jado ka quran se tor per visit kareen is link main bohat sare qurani tor mojod ha

http://kalajadukaquransetoor.blogspot.com/
kala jado ko quran se reverse karna ka liya is link per visit kareen
http://kalajadokopaltana.blogspot.com/
jinnat shaitan sifli mokelat ko quran se dafa karna ka liya is link per visit kareen
http://jinnatshaitanorsifflimokelat.blogspot.com/

get rid of evil devl , jinn , demon , with the help of quran visit this link

http://getrideviljinndevilwiththehelpofquran.blogspot.com/

black magic remove with quran visit this link

http://blackmagicremoveswithquran.blogspot.com/


dua main yaad rakheya ga

amel soname

 



Edited by abg_ramz - 23-Dec-2009 at 6:46am
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Quote abg_ramz Replybullet Posted: 23-Dec-2009 at 6:52am
Assalamu'alaikom,
 
We have new information by other readers about this brother SoName as he has written something which is not so good:
 
 
Assalamu alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu....
 
1. The person says he is an Aamil and
 
2. He talks about Moakkils - and calls them (ANGELS). So, maybe he is seeking help thru THESE ANGELS (well of course these are Jinn)
 
3. Here's a quote from this person where he says:

Inspite of having ilm- nujum, ilm- jaffar, ilm- arva, ilm-ramal, ilm –adat, ilm-naqash, ilm-loh ,ilm-jinn, ilm- asmae husna, ilm-muawakkilat and a great deal of expertise in ilm- kamaliyat, I cannot predict anyone’s future.
Just to explain one, ilm-nujum = astrology = dealing with jinns. Why would a pious and Allah-fearing muslim even learn things like these and furthermore claim knowledge of these things?
 
4. Nowhere does he mention that going to a magician, soothsayer etc. and believing in them is kufr/shirk. All he says is that it is a waste of time. And we alhamdulillah know that it is much much worse than just waste of time.
 
So, this is only a small part of the observations I have made bi Iznillah and my sincere advice/hope is that people not take this website seriously as there are too many things that are misleading and that one should be careful about. As our beloved Prophet Muhammad (sallallahu alaihi wa sallam) has said in one of the saheeh hadith: "Leave something which is doubtful for something which is clear and not doubtful". May Allah guide us all towards the one true straight path which leads to Jannah.

 
Here's another website from the same person (Amel Soname), and here's a quote from it that will tell you what exactly this person is into:
 
Website:                       http://blackmagicremoveswithquran.blogspot.com/
 
Below is the quote from the website: This you can find on this page as the last paragraph under "Breaking Black magic for separation with the help of Quraan"

A simpke amel can break magic easily, because he gives zakat of the verses so that’s why he can easily break the spells. I can very easily break the spells in about 4 to 5 hours because I pay zakat of Rs 125000 for the verses and I have by the grace of Allah enough power to break the magical spells. And I also have other forces that help me in breaking the magic. But it also depends on the amel how much talent he has got.
 
May peace and blessings of Allah be upon those who follow the true guidance.

On those notes, and the seriousness of  mistakes made, we have to banned this Amel Soname from this forum
 
wassalam
 
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Quote amel_soname@yah Replybullet Posted: 24-Dec-2009 at 5:41am
wa laiqum us salam

dear readers All  you objection my website so i am going to clear your all objection


 1. The person says he is an Aamil and

Ans any molana or any person who recite and do qurani spell he is called Aamil or any person who do black magic spell and do kufur spell who is call magician

look a person who ask mufti about taveez and qurani wazahif  i am giving you his question but this question is in Urdu and mufti gave his answer in Urdu read this

 Q kia aap bata saktay hai k TAWEEZ pehnna ya galay main latkana jaiz hai(chahay wo qurani aayat he ka kiun na hoo)? QURAN or HADEES ki ru se kia ye theek hai? jawab day ker shukria ka mouqa dain.

to is ka jaweb mufti sahab na deya ha is link per visit kareen

http://mufti.faizaneattar.net/Answer.php?Q=8532

2 He talks about Moakkils - and calls them (ANGELS)

Ans black magic is also know as in Pakistan or India sifli ilm and these bad  jinn also called in india or pakistan sifli mokel those jinn who do black magic spell to people they called sifli mokel because they know black magic and they did people

what is sifli ilm and about jinn visit this other website http://www.pakspectator.com/sifli-amal/

noore Angle mean rohani Angle like jibrael , mikael , israfel, izrael they angle also called in pakistan or india alwi mokel because these angel are good and help then those people who pray namaz , quran  and do jahiz wazahif

so those Aamil who cast Angle alwi (good Angle ) spell so this is jahiz to muslim

3. Here's a quote from this person where he says:

Inspite of having ilm- nujum, ilm- jaffar, ilm- arva, ilm-ramal, ilm –adat, ilm-naqash, ilm-loh ,ilm-jinn, ilm- asmae husna, ilm-muawakkilat and a great deal of expertise in ilm- kamaliyat, I cannot predict anyone’s future.
Just to explain one, ilm-nujum = astrology = dealing with jinns. Why would a pious and Allah-fearing muslim even learn things like these and furthermore claim knowledge of these things?

Ans i said in my website i know ilm najoom not telling to all people about there feature and not giving people feature chart etc when i lean this ilm so then i know this ilm is fake about telling people there feature that why i created a post and  i clearly mentioning  in my website no body knows feature ilm only Allah knows thats y All astrologer they hate me
visit my post and judge your own self
http://getrideviljinndevilwiththehelpofquran.blogspot.com/2009/11/jinns-human-beings-moakkils-angels-and.html

4. Nowhere does he mention that going to a magician, soothsayer etc. and believing in them is kufr/shirk. All he says is that it is a waste of time. And we alhamdulillah know that it is much much worse than just waste of time.

Ans I don't know when I will die,So how can I tell anyone else about their future i clearly mention in my site no body knows future ilm and also posted qurani proved  so i don,t believe this ilm because this ilm is fake and i mentioned 


5 I have by the grace of Allah enough power to break the magical spells. And I also have other forces that help me in breaking the magic. But it also depends on the amel how much talent he has got.
 
Ans i have good jinns power and alwi Angles power

read this verse
surah dhariyat verse no 56

وَمَا خَلَقْتُ الْجِنَّ وَالْإِنسَ إِلَّا لِيَعْبُدُونِ ﴿٥٦﴾ (56) I have only created Jinns and men, that they may serve Me.
people think those person who used jinn for there help who is bad person and that person is magician in this verse Allah suban wa tala clearly mention that jinn serve Allah tala so there are so many Aamil in pakistan and india and lots of buzurg and aoliya , wali they have jinn and they order jinn to help people
read this verse surah jinn verse no 5
وَأَنَّا ظَنَنَّا أَن لَّن تَقُولَ الْإِنسُ وَالْجِنُّ عَلَى اللَّهِ كَذِبًا ﴿٥﴾ (5) 'But we do think that no man or spirit should say aught that untrue against Allah.
so lots of jinn they pray namaz and do zakat and wazahif lots of jinn they help people in pakistan there is a great buzurg place in this place there are lots of good muslim jinn these jinn like sheikh abdul rehman alsudais when imam khana kaba recite quran pak they like so much evean i saw my eyes one jinn is lot of crying when abdul rehman alsudais is reciting surah ambia and asking Allah tala to gave him mercy 
so all readers if you think this website is not good or haram and there  spell are kufr so go and ask imam  about this site inshallah imam will help you and clearfy you

remember me in your prayer

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Quote rawatansihir Replybullet Posted: 24-Dec-2009 at 10:30am
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look a person who ask mufti about taveez and qurani wazahif  i am giving you his question but this question is in Urdu and mufti gave his answer in Urdu read this

 Q kia aap bata saktay hai k TAWEEZ pehnna ya galay main latkana jaiz hai(chahay wo qurani aayat he ka kiun na hoo)? QURAN or HADEES ki ru se kia ye theek hai? jawab day ker shukria ka mouqa dain.

to is ka jaweb mufti sahab na deya ha is link per visit kareen

http://mufti.faizaneattar.net/Answer.php?Q=8532

 
wa'alaikumussalam,
 
Yes we know that there are bad Muftis over there who give taweez to people so that these people wear them around neck for protection. But not all Muftis are bad. These innocent people also carrry Quran verses in the taweez into toilet, and this make the syaithan happy.
 
So these innocent Muslims think because the Muftis have Islamic certificates, so these innocent Muslims think everything is right. But they have done shirk and also get ALLAH's anger for bringing Quranic verses in toilet. I believe only the really nasty magicians will put Quran in toilets, nauzubillah
 
Originally posted by amel_soname@yah

Ans i have good jinns power and alwi Angles power

remember me in your prayer

amel soname 
 
By admitting that you employ "jinns" and "jinn who claim to be Alwi Angels" shows that you need to take basic classes in Islamic education.
 
Even the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) cannot command the angels (refer Sura Maryam verse 64) or this article:
 
So how can we have someone more pious than the prophet ?!
 
insyALLAH, we will make doa for everybody so that they get hidayah and correct understanding of Islam. 
 
wassalam
 
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Quote amel_soname101 Replybullet Posted: 25-Dec-2009 at 9:34pm
wa laiqum us salam

brother you disable my acount again and again  because you don,t have ability to face me and i have ability to answer all your question in quran or hadith .  i will give you all your objection answer

objection no 1

So these innocent Muslims think because the Muftis have Islamic certificates, so these innocent Muslims think everything is right. But they have done shirk and also get ALLAH's anger for bringing Quranic verses in toilet. I believe only the really nasty magicians will put Quran in toilets, nauzubillah

Ans  there are 2 condtion in this type .in pakistan many molana and mufti said if any person covered taveez in box and verse not shows then person is allow to wear taveez and go toilet and its not shirk and not kufur

second condition if any person goes toilet and verses shows evean they wear Allah name locket or Allah name shows so thats haram this is not allow in islam

listin mufti fatwa about taveez to go toilet
http://mufti.faizaneattar.net/Answer.php?Q=10007

objection no 2
By admitting that you employ "jinns" and "jinn who claim to be Alwi Angels" shows that you need to take basic classes in Islamic education.

dear brother first you read quran and there meaning  then you tell me to go islam education

read this surah care fully and understand

Surah saba verse no 12,13

وَلِسُلَيْمَانَ الرِّيحَ غُدُوُّهَا شَهْرٌ وَرَوَاحُهَا شَهْرٌ ۖ وَأَسَلْنَا لَهُ عَيْنَ الْقِطْرِ ۖ وَمِنَ الْجِنِّ مَن يَعْمَلُ بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ بِإِذْنِ رَبِّهِ ۖ وَمَن يَزِغْ مِنْهُمْ عَنْ أَمْرِنَا نُذِقْهُ مِنْ عَذَابِ السَّعِيرِ ﴿١٢﴾ (12) And to Solomon (We made) the Wind (obedient): Its early morning (stride) was a month's (journey), and its evening (stride) was a month's (journey); and We made a Font of molten brass to flow for him; and there were Jinns that worked in front of him, by the leave of his Lord, and if any of them turned aside from our command, We made him taste of the Penalty of the Blazing Fire. يَعْمَلُونَ لَهُ مَا يَشَاءُ مِن مَّحَارِيبَ وَتَمَاثِيلَ وَجِفَانٍ كَالْجَوَابِ وَقُدُورٍ رَّاسِيَاتٍ ۚ اعْمَلُوا آلَ دَاوُودَ شُكْرًا ۚ وَقَلِيلٌ مِّنْ عِبَادِيَ الشَّكُورُ ﴿١٣﴾ (13) They worked for him as he desired, (making) arches, images, basons as large as reservoirs, and (cooking) cauldrons fixed (in their places): "Work ye, sons of David, with thanks! but few of My servants are grateful!"

in this verse Allah tala said jinn works for soloman and other verse whatever soloman wants jinn do
surah namal verse no 39,40

قَالَ عِفْرِيتٌ مِّنَ الْجِنِّ أَنَا آتِيكَ بِهِ قَبْلَ أَن تَقُومَ مِن مَّقَامِكَ ۖ وَإِنِّي عَلَيْهِ لَقَوِيٌّ أَمِينٌ ﴿٣٩﴾ (39) Said an 'Ifrit, of the Jinns: "I will bring it to thee before thou rise from thy council: indeed I have full strength for the purpose, and may be trusted." قَالَ الَّذِي عِندَهُ عِلْمٌ مِّنَ الْكِتَابِ أَنَا آتِيكَ بِهِ قَبْلَ أَن يَرْتَدَّ إِلَيْكَ طَرْفُكَ ۚ فَلَمَّا رَآهُ مُسْتَقِرًّا عِندَهُ قَالَ هَـٰذَا مِن فَضْلِ رَبِّي لِيَبْلُوَنِي أَأَشْكُرُ أَمْ أَكْفُرُ ۖ وَمَن شَكَرَ فَإِنَّمَا يَشْكُرُ لِنَفْسِهِ ۖ وَمَن كَفَرَ فَإِنَّ رَبِّي غَنِيٌّ كَرِيمٌ ﴿٤٠﴾ (40) Said one who had knowledge of the Book: "I will bring it to thee within the twinkling of an eye!" Then when (Solomon) saw it placed firmly before him, he said: "This is by the Grace of my Lord!- to test me whether I am grateful or ungrateful! and if any is grateful, truly his gratitude is (a gain) for his own soul; but if any is ungrateful, truly my Lord is Free of all Needs, Supreme in Honour !"

in this verses jinn work for sulman


Q Alwi angles obejction for helping

read this surah calling angle
Al-Alaq verse no 18

سَنَدْعُ الزَّبَانِيَةَ ﴿١٨﴾ (18) We will call on the angels of punishment (to deal with him)!

surah tahrim verse no 4

إِن تَتُوبَا إِلَى اللَّهِ فَقَدْ صَغَتْ قُلُوبُكُمَا ۖ وَإِن تَظَاهَرَا عَلَيْهِ فَإِنَّ اللَّهَ هُوَ مَوْلَاهُ وَجِبْرِيلُ وَصَالِحُ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ ۖ وَالْمَلَائِكَةُ بَعْدَ ذَ‌ٰلِكَ ظَهِيرٌ ﴿٤﴾ (4) If ye two turn in repentance to Him, your hearts are indeed so inclined; But if ye back up each other against him, truly Allah is his Protector, and Gabriel, and (every) righteous one among those who believe,- and furthermore, the angels - will back (him) up.

in this verse clearly mention that angels are helping

surah Al-Ahzab  verse no 43

هُوَ الَّذِي يُصَلِّي عَلَيْكُمْ وَمَلَائِكَتُهُ لِيُخْرِجَكُم مِّنَ الظُّلُمَاتِ إِلَى النُّورِ ۚ وَكَانَ بِالْمُؤْمِنِينَ رَحِيمًا ﴿٤٣﴾ (43) He it is Who sends blessings on you, as do His angels, that He may bring you out from the depths of Darkness into Light: and He is Full of Mercy to the Believers
in this verse clearly mention that angels blessings

in hadith

a yahode person who,s name lobaid bin al asim  he did magic to hazrate muhammad mustafa pak salal laho allai wasalam 2 angels come and infrom nabi pak that lobaid bin al asim did magic and these 2 Angels help to removing spell then 2 surah nazil to nabi pak surah falaq , and surah nas

( bokhare jild 10 safa 222 muslim jild 14 sifa 174kitab islam bab al shir )

listin mufti fatwa about angles help

http://mufti.faizaneattar.net/Search.php?search=10938


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Quote rawatansihir Replybullet Posted: 26-Dec-2009 at 12:14am
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Ans  there are 2 condtion in this type .in pakistan many molana and mufti said if any person covered taveez in box and verse not shows then person is allow to wear taveez and go toilet and its not shirk and not kufur
 
wa'alaikumussalam,
 
mashALLAH, that shows how wrong your maulanas are. Please tell us that Muslims in Pakistan also bring their lunch food in box and put in toilet ?
 
But if you don't put bring your own food in box in toilet, why ? Is this because the food is more holy than the Quran ? Please think carefully
 
And please show me the hadith where the Prophet (SAW) or Sahabah (RA) wraps Quranic verses into box/clothes and brings into toilet ! mashALLAH, this is haram ! Please think of what you are doing !!
 
Muslims all over the world would be shocked to hear that you people are keeping Quran in toilets ! For what purpose ? To get good-luck ? mashALLAH.
 
 
Originally posted by amel_soname101

objection no 2

By admitting that you employ "jinns" and "jinn who claim to be Alwi Angels" shows that you need to take basic classes in Islamic education.

dear brother first you read quran and there meaning  then you tell me to go islam education

read this surah care fully and understand

Surah saba verse no 12,13

وَلِسُلَيْمَانَ الرِّيحَ غُدُوُّهَا شَهْرٌ وَرَوَاحُهَا شَهْرٌ ۖ وَأَسَلْنَا لَهُ عَيْنَ الْقِطْرِ ۖ وَمِنَ الْجِنِّ مَن يَعْمَلُ بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ بِإِذْنِ رَبِّهِ ۖ وَمَن يَزِغْ مِنْهُمْ عَنْ أَمْرِنَا نُذِقْهُ مِنْ عَذَابِ السَّعِيرِ ﴿١٢﴾ (12) And to Solomon (We made) the Wind (obedient): Its early morning (stride) was a month's (journey), and its evening (stride) was a month's (journey); and We made a Font of molten brass to flow for him; and there were Jinns that worked in front of him, by the leave of his Lord, and if any of them turned aside from our command, We made him taste of the Penalty of the Blazing Fire. يَعْمَلُونَ لَهُ مَا يَشَاءُ مِن مَّحَارِيبَ وَتَمَاثِيلَ وَجِفَانٍ كَالْجَوَابِ وَقُدُورٍ رَّاسِيَاتٍ ۚ اعْمَلُوا آلَ دَاوُودَ شُكْرًا ۚ وَقَلِيلٌ مِّنْ عِبَادِيَ الشَّكُورُ ﴿١٣﴾ (13) They worked for him as he desired, (making) arches, images, basons as large as reservoirs, and (cooking) cauldrons fixed (in their places): "Work ye, sons of David, with thanks! but few of My servants are grateful!"

in this verse Allah tala said jinn works for soloman and other verse whatever soloman wants jinn do

surah namal verse no 39,40

قَالَ عِفْرِيتٌ مِّنَ الْجِنِّ أَنَا آتِيكَ بِهِ قَبْلَ أَن تَقُومَ مِن مَّقَامِكَ ۖ وَإِنِّي عَلَيْهِ لَقَوِيٌّ أَمِينٌ ﴿٣٩﴾ (39) Said an 'Ifrit, of the Jinns: "I will bring it to thee before thou rise from thy council: indeed I have full strength for the purpose, and may be trusted." قَالَ الَّذِي عِندَهُ عِلْمٌ مِّنَ الْكِتَابِ أَنَا آتِيكَ بِهِ قَبْلَ أَن يَرْتَدَّ إِلَيْكَ طَرْفُكَ ۚ فَلَمَّا رَآهُ مُسْتَقِرًّا عِندَهُ قَالَ هَـٰذَا مِن فَضْلِ رَبِّي لِيَبْلُوَنِي أَأَشْكُرُ أَمْ أَكْفُرُ ۖ وَمَن شَكَرَ فَإِنَّمَا يَشْكُرُ لِنَفْسِهِ ۖ وَمَن كَفَرَ فَإِنَّ رَبِّي غَنِيٌّ كَرِيمٌ ﴿٤٠﴾ (40) Said one who had knowledge of the Book: "I will bring it to thee within the twinkling of an eye!" Then when (Solomon) saw it placed firmly before him, he said: "This is by the Grace of my Lord!- to test me whether I am grateful or ungrateful! and if any is grateful, truly his gratitude is (a gain) for his own soul; but if any is ungrateful, truly my Lord is Free of all Needs, Supreme in Honour !"

in this verses jinn work for sulman


in hadith

a yahode person who,s name lobaid bin al asim  he did magic to hazrate muhammad mustafa pak salal laho allai wasalam 2 angels come and infrom nabi pak that lobaid bin al asim did magic and these 2 Angels help to removing spell then 2 surah nazil to nabi pak surah falaq , and surah nas

( bokhare jild 10 safa 222 muslim jild 14 sifa 174kitab islam bab al shir )

Yes, we all know that these are Prophet Sulaiman (AS) and Prophet Mohammad (SAW). These are special people !
 
Mr. Soname, are you are a Prophet ? You are just like me, ordinary Muslim.
 
We pray to ALLAH, and ALLAH is the one who will give orders to the angels. We cannot give orders to angels, as this is already taught to even the Prophet (SAW) in Surah Maryam verse 64, that only ALLAH can call the angels.
 
So please read and understand Sura Maryam verse 64, read it 10x a day so that it gets into your head.
 
That is why we are blocking your id. Your lack of knowledge of Islam is so bad that if you are repeat what your wrote to the Muslim scholars in in Egypt or Malaysia or in Medina, they will definitely arrest you and put you in jail.
 
So please find a good righteous scholar so that you learnt the right things.
 
wassalam
 
 


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